Subject: RE: [jade-develop] Proxy with multiplataform agents
From: Erick Martinez (erickm@cs.yorku.ca)
Date: Mon Dec 02 2002 - 23:08:28 MET
Hi Fabio, granted ... however in my case I have some time constraints like
final project due in two weeks, and because at this time the main focus
was interfacing logic-based agents with JADE, I am just trying to get the
best out of both platforms, and DCG actually saved me a lot of time.
Besides in terms of portability and operability, in my case was easier to
have the ACL wrapper layer on the Prolog side. Each project or
application is different. Hopefully next time I will go deeper into JADE.
I really like the platform. Thanks.
Cheers,
--Erick Martinez Graduate Student Department of Computer Science York University 4700 Keele Street Toronto, Ontario M3J 1K7
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Bellifemine Fabio wrote:
> Erick, I agree with all your considerations about text and string manipulation, but do not be too much afraid of that: all the XML-world and Web-services are based also on string passing and manipulation. > Fabio. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Erick Martinez [mailto:erickm@cs.yorku.ca] > > Sent: 30 November 2002 20:47 > > To: David > > Cc: jade-develop@sharon.cselt.it; aart@swi.psy.uva.nl; > > jansweij@swi.psy.uva.nl > > Subject: RE: [jade-develop] Proxy with multiplataform agents > > > > > > > > Hi David, well so far I am using sockets. As I mentioned > > before on the > > JADE side I am using a SocketProxyAgent (SPA) to route all incoming > > messages to other agents. This basically acts as a server, > > the main advantage here > > you get an ACL aware server that does all incoming message parsing. > > On the Prolog side, I created a preliminary ACL wrapper to deal with > > parsing and generation of ACL messages. DCG grammar is very good to > > handle this kind of stuff, and it is available in most Prolog > > implementations (currently using SWI) > > > > You should have already noticed, I am mostly concentrating on > > the Prolog > > side. One alternative could be to implement a translator on the JADE > > side, and send propietary Prolog-like messages. Then you have to > > translate incoming messages into ACL. Sounds like a lot of text > > manipulation to me, but in can be done. > > > > After posting my previous message, I managed to bypass the > > SPA. Basically > > I implemented a regular Java client. I use the implicit ACL generation > > capabilities of one of the JADE agents to assemble the > > message, and then I > > rely on the client to send it out. > > > > So far so good, but I find this still very primitive in the sense, all > > message content is handled as ad hoc strings. Time provided, > > using some > > content language manipulation could improve things considerably. > > > > I hope this was useful. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > > > Erick Martinez > > Graduate Student > > Department of Computer Science > > York University > > 4700 Keele Street > > Toronto, Ontario M3J 1K7 > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, David wrote: > > > > > Hi Erick, > > > > > > I am also working on a JADE agents sing Prolog as the > > inference engine. > > > I would appreciate very much if you can share with me how > > you did this > > > interfacing and what other useful information on using > > Prolog with JADE. > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > Regards > > > David > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: jade-develop-admin@sharon.cselt.it [mailto:jade-develop- > > > > admin@sharon.cselt.it] On Behalf Of Erick Martinez > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 6:04 AM > > > > To: jade-develop@sharon.cselt.it > > > > Subject: [jade-develop] Proxy with multiplataform agents > > > > > > > > Hi there, I am working on a project to interface JADE > > with some legacy > > > > Prolog-like agents (pretty much the other way around but ...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> This is the scenario: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the JADE side: > > > > > > > > > > > > - 1 reactive GUI agent > > > > > > > > > > > > - 1 proxy agent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the Prolog side: > > > > > > > > > > > > - a multilayered ACL wrapper > > > > > > > > > > > > - several agents, brokered by a only one dispatcher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> This is the problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > - The JADE proxy agent acts as a server (default port 6789), and > > > routes > > > > all > > > > incoming messages to the GUI (so far, so good) > > > > > > > > > > > > - The GUI agent needs to send messages to the other side, but they > > > have to > > > > be > > > > delivered through a port other than the one the proxy is > > listening to. > > > > This is > > > > because on the other side there is also a server listening for > > > incoming > > > > messages. Both platforms can't share the same port and > > behave like > > > > servers at > > > > the same time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can I manage to either bypass the proxy and send > > messages directly > > > > (this > > > > doesn't sound very FIPA compliant), or make the proxy to get the > > > message > > > > and > > > > send it through a different port? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to subclass the SocketProxyAgent class but the > > compiler keeps > > > > complining > > > > about access types. How can I do it? Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your time and help, in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erick Martinez > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate Student > > > > > > > > > > > > Department of Computer Science > > > > > > > > > > > > York University > > > > > > > > > > > > 4700 Keele Street > > > > > > > > > > > > Toronto, Ontario M3J 1K7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > jade-develop mailing list > > > > jade-develop@sharon.cselt.it > > > > http://sharon.cselt.it/mailman/listinfo/jade-develop > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE INSTRUCTIONS AT > > > http://jade.cselt.it/mailing.htm#unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > jade-develop mailing list > > jade-develop@sharon.cselt.it > > http://sharon.cselt.it/mailman/listinfo/jade-develop > > UNSUBSCRIBE INSTRUCTIONS AT > > http://jade.cselt.it/mailing.htm#unsubscribe > > > > > ==================================================================== > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > This message and its attachments are addressed solely to the persons > above and may contain confidential information. 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